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Officials continue enlisted DOS rollback program

Posted 11/1/2011   Updated 10/31/2011 Email story   Print story

    


Air Force Personnel, Service and Manpower Public Affairs

11/1/2011 - RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE, Texas -- Air Force officials announced Oct. 28 plans to continue an enlisted date of separation rollback as part of its ongoing measures to manage the force and maintain a quality enlisted corps.

The DOS rollback will accelerate the date of separation for selected Airmen in the grades of senior master sergeant and below with fewer than 14 or more than 20 years of service as of March 31, 2012.

Under the DOS rollback, identified Airmen must separate no later than March 31, 2012 or retire no later than April 1, 2012, if they possess specific reporting identifiers, reenlistment eligibility, assignment availability and grade status reason codes. Commanders will notify Airmen meeting eligibility and in most instances determine which Airman will remain eligible or ineligible for this DOS Rollback.

Airmen identified for the rollback and eligible for retirement must submit their retirement request via the Virtual Military Personnel Flight by Dec. 1, 2011.

Airmen with at least 180 days of active-duty service who are separated under the DOS Rollback are authorized transition assistance benefits. Those include 180 days of extended medical care for themselves and their families and an ID card allowing base commissary and exchange privileges for two years.

Those separated with more than six years, but less than 20 years total active service are eligible for one-half separation pay, but must sign an Individual Ready Reserve agreement to serve for a minimum three years following their military service obligation. Those declining to serve in the IRR will be ineligible for separation pay.

The Air Force will not recoup unearned portions of education assistance funds, special pay, unearned portions of bonuses or other monetary incentives under the DOS Rollback Program. Additionally, most Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits will not be impacted; however, the transferability of benefits to dependents may be affected. Airmen should consult their local education centers or the VA concerning transferability.

For information about this, and other personnel issues, visit the Air Force Personnel Services website at https://gum-crm.csd.disa.mil.



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6/25/2013 4:03:56 PM ET
Katrina What you are suggesting is exactly what this program is doing weeding out the Airmen with UIFs Control Rosters and such. The first leader to look at who should stay and who should go is the first line supervisor. Give Airmen the reports that they deserve and that gives the Commanders better decision making data. Otherwise all we have is a PT test to be the deciding factor.
Chief, Colorado
 
7/19/2012 8:49:15 PM ET
I have to agree with some of the other comments for those who are begging to get it has a plan and want to pursue it outside of the military they refuse to release. Those who are less eager to leave and need structured guidance they boot out the door...SMH...I just want to be FREE...
KW, Moody AFB
 
5/2/2012 7:35:15 AM ET
All i have to say is that those who have families and/or a new born on the way will be hurt financially. SMH this is sad.
jamie, columbia sc
 
11/28/2011 7:20:05 AM ET
ALCON: Although this decision is not necessarily fair or beneficial to all those that are being selected for involuntary seperation, we as AIRMEN need to realize that there are times in life when it is not FAIR. PERIOD. I took an oath almost five years ago to serve my country, and the Air Force is asking of me to leave under this program. Although i do not entirely agree with the request, i understand that as a soldier who swore to protect this beautiful country i will do as asked of me. I wish to convey this sincerity to all those being affected by this issue, and please understand that, to all those with families, I understand your grevience as well. I too have two small children and a wife.
jonathan cheli, Lajes AB
 
11/23/2011 9:00:49 AM ET
This works out great for me because I get to move on with my life after my split second decision to join the AF which resulted in alot of growing pains. Having the type b personality I do not belong and have been struggling since the beginning to fit in. Im ecstatic.
Austin, Hickam AFB
 
11/18/2011 1:07:58 PM ET
I found out this morning that i'm out because of this. It really sucks, my whole family is Air Force and it's all i wanted to do. I failed out of my first tech, but was in the top of my class for my second one. I've been in for a year and a half. I'm really going to miss serving my country.
Shelby, Moody AFB
 
11/10/2011 5:52:06 PM ET
Folks like Oscar Blackcat seem to have their heads perpetually in the sand. The entire force is getting hit, from senior officers to junior enlisted. As I'm certain you have zero data to support your bloated CGO corps statement, I recommend you do some research to see how damaging the officer corps cuts are. BTW, this is the eighth year of officer force shaping. We are losing good people in both the O and E categories. However, we need to focus on how we will move forward instead of which side of the fence is perceived to be getting hit worse.
ckj, USA
 
11/8/2011 4:08:45 PM ET
my husband is meeting with the commander as i type this, and we have 2 kids and i'm pregnant with our 3rd, and his enlistment will not be up till june of 2013. he is one of the ones who wants to stay in and re-enlinst, but we know that may not happen, but for him to be cut is financially gonna hurt us. I know they don't care about the families, but why can they not for once think about them when making decisions that are so extreme like this. it is tearing apart everything we have and we weren't fortunate to have a savings yet because God knows you don't join the military to get rich. it is a scary situation and were both still young. he is 21, 'im 20 we have a 3 year old, a 1 year old and im due in april. hearing all this and having to go through it makes it very hard on us.
lindsey, EAFB
 
11/7/2011 6:28:43 PM ET
PT is not a good scale to decide who should be kicked out. No injury rehab programs, Inconsistent scoring, and last but not least not all careers have the luxury of just leaving work to go to the gym. If the AF wants to be like the Army, then we need to shut the flightline down and have PT as a group. Some of us have sacrificed our bodies for the job believe it or not.
Dead by Dawn, AK
 
11/7/2011 7:24:02 AM ET
I know half a dozen airman that wish to leave the airforce. But non are able to due to not having served half of their required enlistment. There are many things prevent people who want to leave from being able to. I simply want to retrain in 10days XD because Im tired of getting treated like a criminal in aircraft MX dispite not have so much as a QA fail more or less TDV or DSV.
gabe, moody
 
11/6/2011 1:11:07 AM ET
Getting really tired of hearing about rollbacks all of the time. instead of treating our enlisted coprs like numbers, why not focus on our BLOATED CGO corps. I know many a worthless O-3s and O-4s who are soley focused on get to retirement and then quitting. The enlisted corps saved the day EVERYDAY. Can't say the same about our CGOs. The continual drip drip drip of rollbacks is taking a toll on the morale of the enlisted corp.
Oscar Blackcat, Osan
 
11/4/2011 8:43:47 AM ET
The people commenting that it should be the commanders making the decisions on who should be allowed to stay and that there should be a way to weed out the ones who don't deserve to be in the Air Force are correct. The only problem is that would require commanders making tough decisions. That isn't going to happen. Commanders know they will only be in that position for 18-24 months. As long as they don't screw up they can move on to a better position. For them it is better to make no decision than make a decision that will cause someone to be upset and maybe contact a Congressman. Also, to the person who said cut the cadet corps in half. That was a good idea, but why not just get rid of the Academy and have all military cadets attend The United States Military Academy at West Point. Close Maxwell and Lackland and move all the training to Colorado Springs.
Jerry, Oklahoma
 
11/4/2011 2:22:32 AM ET
The people making most of these decisions are manpower for the USAF. They could care less who is good or bad. The Commanders make that decision when the time comes. It's a sad situation because in my 25 years I have seen this senerio a few times and the AF ends up with regrets. They end up cutting some outstanding troops and are stuck with fast burners with no real skills or troops that have a bad record that squeeked through the cracks. Good Luck everyone I love the Air Force but I never liked some of the decisions our leadership made.
MSgt James Lopez Ret, Cheyenne Wy
 
11/3/2011 5:40:26 PM ET
JP: Nothing wrong with the form. You are correct when you ask how do we separate everyone when they all have 5s. Answer, don't give them the 5. I was at the SNCOA at Gunter when the CMSAF panel was asked them same question. It is an evaluation; if people fail to evaluate correctly and professionally, then its a problem we created ourselves. Ho many firewall 9s came out when that was the form?
1st Sgt , New Mexico
 
11/3/2011 4:39:06 PM ET
How about we reduce the number of AF Cadets by half per class. The average amount of money per each Cadet is 400000 dollars for their 4 years at the Academy. And around 1000 graduate so do the math. It would be much cheaper to retain the people we have instead of spending this money on brand new individuals. Before we get rid of good enlisted people address that AF leaders.
Dane, Colorado
 
11/3/2011 4:32:15 PM ET
How about focusing some attention on problems such as the ridiculous EPR system that has been basically worthless since the early 90's? When everyone gets a 5, how can you objectively decide who needs to stay and who needs to go?
JC, Texas
 
11/3/2011 4:08:29 PM ET
I have already been notified - I was actually notified a day before the official announcement. I declined an assignment a month ago so it wasn't really a surprise. Just kinda sucks to be cut off 2 1/2 months before I had planned. I haven't been happy with my job in the past 3 years, so honestly this is a relief and I really look forward to the civilian life no matter how scary it will be. Life doesn't happen if you don't take risks.
daria, Joint Base Charleston
 
11/3/2011 3:06:18 PM ET
What is half seperation pay?
ricky james, AZ
 
11/3/2011 12:22:13 PM ET
Pick Me Pick Me I will gladly go. Even though I am a great NCO I am not really interested in staying in since I have not had the best of careers and I have been unsuccessful at crosstraining since I really want to.
SSgt JP, Peterson
 
11/3/2011 10:51:44 AM ET
Why does it say there are seven comments on this story but none are here?
Smith, at Jones
 
11/3/2011 10:10:26 AM ET
I also think we should be letting the people who dont want to be in and have a good track record out. I have served for four years and i am ready to get out and i am stuck for two more years. And no longer enjoy what i am doing and am preping to go to fire school.
Justin Smith , Tinker AFB
 
11/3/2011 8:53:23 AM ET
Katrina in my experience the group of people you mention are exactly the group the Commander's identify to be separated early.A1C Young the Air Force will not recoup portions of money that has already been paid to a member eventhough the member will not fulfill his or her entire committment such as career field bonus. Montgomery GI Bill will not be affected.Kyle the Air Force doesn't reward the Airman with a bad track record by letting him or her out early. With DoD budgets shrinking the Air Force must be as efficient as possible so must eliminate the unproductive.
SMSgt ret Bruce Morgan, Florida
 
11/3/2011 8:12:52 AM ET
Sorry folks but you aren't anything more than just a number in the Active Duty Air Force. And when it's time to cut it's just numbers to those making the decisions.Wanna be more than a number join a family join the Guard. We care about our people enough to not treat them like a number.
Luke, Tyndall
 
11/3/2011 6:33:58 AM ET
When will the identified Airmen be notified How many people are they going to cut Will this lead to a top heavy force Is this optional
Ross Perry, texas
 
11/3/2011 3:34:47 AM ET
I believe the airmen who do not want to be in and have not got into trouble should be the airmen getting out. Why reward the airmen with a bad track record with the privilege of getting out
Kyle Jurczyk, Eielson AFB AK
 
11/2/2011 11:51:22 AM ET
What does it mean The Air Force will not recoup unearned portions of education assistance funds special pay unearned portions of bonuses or other monetary incentives under the DOS Rollback Program officials said. Does that mean that if you are still on the old Montgomery GI-Bill that you will not receive your GI-Bill benefits Or is that just referring to that once you get out you lose your Tuition Assistance eligibility
A1C Young, MAFB - Gunter Annex
 
11/2/2011 10:54:14 AM ET
Ditto to Katrina's comment. She hit the nail square on the head.
Rasta, Goldsboro NC
 
11/2/2011 7:07:19 AM ET
I personally think this is garbage. We need to make sure we are weeding out the people that don't really deserve to be in the AF such as Article 15's UIFs Control Rosters multiple failed PT tests etc. We also need to stop or slow down the basic training...again bringing new Airmen into the Air Force that are not trained or equipped to handle the demands of the Air Force. Our leaders need to get involved and look at who really should stay and who should go
Katrina, Ramstein
 
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