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AF selects 3,841 for MSgt

Posted 5/21/2013   Updated 5/22/2013 Email story   Print story


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5/21/2013 - JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO-RANDOLPH, Texas -- More than 3,800 technical sergeants have been selected for promotion to master sergeant, Air Force officials said today. The 3,841 selected represent 18.71 percent of the 20,528 eligible. The list of selectees will be released Thursday, 8 a.m. Central Time.

The average score for those selected was 350.21. Selectees' average time in grade is 4.38 years and time in service is 15.27. The average enlisted performance report score is 133.85, and 11.02 is the average decorations score. Selectee average promotion fitness examination score is 82.76 and the average specialty knowledge test score is 68.43.

Those selected for master sergeant will be promoted according to their promotion sequence number beginning in August. Selections are tentative until the data verification process is complete, which is no later than 10 days after the promotion release date. Personnel officials will notify Airmen, via military personnel sections, if their selection is in question.

To see the promotion list Thursday, go to the myPers website at,  select "Search All Components" from the drop down menu and enter "enlisted promotions" in the search window. Airmen will also be able to access their score notices on the virtual MPF, accessible via the secure applications page and the Air Force Portal.

For more information about promotion opportunities and other personnel issues, visit myPers.

5/27/2013 2:31:54 PM ET
I'm guessing they haven't released it on this site yet because this year they included the current base of the selectee in the list. If the system isn't broke don't fix it. Name AFSC and line number thats all you need.
Jon, Germany
5/24/2013 4:15:21 PM ET
Where can I find the entire 2013 E-7 list
Tonya Bush, San Antonio
5/24/2013 3:58:58 PM ET
I made it this year I was shocked and surprised..I scored just above those averages for sktpdg. Regarding TISTIG....I think it's time they started looking at taking those out all together and as long as you meet PECD then you are good to test. I'm with using some formula of TIGTIS to calculate line numbers but not for promotion points.
Shauneg, Mcguire
5/24/2013 1:18:46 PM ET
If you don't like the AF enlisted promotion system then move over to another branch OR earn your commission. Everyone is afforded the same opportunities. You can either work and study a lot and earn that next stripe or be bitter when the guy next to you does while you were busy slacking off.
Lt Dan, Whiteman
5/24/2013 4:04:24 AM ET
I thought the PDG average were a bit on the high side as well. However if you look at the scores some folks have over 100 points on PDG. It appears the averages includes folks who test PDG only thus have their scores doubled. Truth be told the real PDG averages appeared to be in the 60's.Congrats to all of the selects
Lemmy, Italy
5/23/2013 7:34:58 PM ET
The promotion selectees and statistics are considered sensitive classified Top Secret SCI Eyes Only government data that can not be released to the public unless you have press credentials.
john q public, united states
5/23/2013 4:36:34 PM ET
Is there no more public listing that can be accessed Normally there is one on the AFPC site. Whats the deal.
TJ, Tampa
5/23/2013 3:54:33 PM ET
still the af doesn't know how to promote personnel you have to promote via you normal job assignment verses others in the same job. you wouldn't expect an admin pers to do a engine tech job and vice versa when will the af start promotins like they should be
ray, fl
5/23/2013 1:05:53 PM ET
Finding it hard to believe that the overall average PFE score is 82.76 for selectees when only 1 career field had an average selectee PFE above 80. Over 40 percent of career fields average selectees PFE were less than 70 percent.
Steve, SJAFB
5/23/2013 12:56:26 PM ET
So many people with opinions rather than facts. After viewing some scores around the shop the PDG average is in the 80s because it really is Believe it or not. Its not because of PDG only folks.I disagree with the comment about only good testers get promoted EPRs equals your performance. Dont blame the AF for the supervisor not rating accuratlyPDG is your overall AF knowledgeSKT is your overall specialty knowledgeTIG and TIS is your senoritySo you could be a box of rocks and still just being around as long as you have has merit.The promotion system does a good job promoting based off the overall concept.Be prepared for next year. MSgt selection boards are coming.
Prior E, Air Force
5/23/2013 10:08:12 AM ET
The scores are high because they factor in the pdg only testers who double their score. No way in the world would the regular 'average' be so high.
TSgt, Oz
5/23/2013 9:06:15 AM ET
waiting...waiting...waiting...someday the systems won't crash when the results are posted.
RADHAZ, Ft Gordon GA
5/23/2013 12:35:59 AM ET
where can you access a public list online
Si, SC
5/22/2013 5:58:44 PM ET
Instead of offering perspectives maybe you should find out how the promotion tests are written. They are designed so the average score is 50. So that means our selects really know their stuff unlike you. Congrats to the promotes.
Chingu, The ROK
5/22/2013 4:30:49 PM ET
It amazes me that people think that our promotion system identifies the best candidates for promotion. People get promoted because they rack up sufficient points in certain areas. They don't get promoted because they are smart good leaders good at their primary duties or are ready for more responsibility. Doing well on the SKT doesn't mean one is good at their AFSC doing well on the PFE does not mean they are knowledgeable or care about the Air Force rules or standards it means they can read books and answer questions. Getting 5s on EPRs means that they passed their PT test and didn't get in trouble. We promote people who care about getting promoted.
Sgt Whoever, conus
5/22/2013 1:12:14 PM ET
@another perspective...SKT does not evaluate you on your day to day job but rather skills associated with your AFSC. Your job and AFSC technically align but the reality is that you'll be assigned where they need you regardless of what your specialty is. You're really being tested on things you may never in your entire career touch.
Steve-o, CONUS
5/22/2013 11:21:16 AM ET
Average specialty knowledge test score is 68.4 Yes an average is just that however in the big scheme of things that is a D plus average. A D plus average on your day to day job
Another Perspective, Here and There
5/22/2013 10:27:46 AM ET
Good Luck to all that have tested. Last year was a nail biter for me also so i know how everyone feels at the moment. The averages are bit drastic compared to the last 2 years but for all who don't make it don't give up....Keep studying...It will pay off in the end....
MSgt DB, Europe
5/22/2013 8:43:53 AM ET
Those figures look perfect to me. A balance of experience based on time in grade and service. People who know their job as evidenced by the SKT score. More impressive is the PDG number....that should mean that we have a new crop of SNCOs who know how to be good Airmen first. That's what we need in the SNCO ranks...IMO
A SNCO, An AFB Near You
5/21/2013 11:49:22 PM ET
Sean , FL
5/21/2013 7:59:34 PM ET
That is EXTREMELY high... Doesn't look like I will be making MSgt this century
Nick, Japan
5/21/2013 5:34:02 PM ET
Ha I wish it was a typo but those averages add up to that average score. Pretty impressive.
Mark, NV
5/21/2013 5:01:36 PM ET
Ouch those averages are impressive I thought I had a shot this year but not so much now.
Despondent TSgt, NV
5/21/2013 3:36:00 PM ET
Is this right The PDG average is very high. Is this a tyop
Matt, Tinker
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